Manne67

This is precisely the problem. No one from the designer team has responded here almost since release. Just take a look at the posts from the last year. It's no wonder that people keep writing here that the project is dead. I myself have reported problems with the -700 over and over again since release (XP11) and never received any response. Whether a new version will ever appear remains to be seen. I will believe it only when it is there.

There is nothing to add. I already returned to ZIBO a long time ago and banned the LevelUp from Xplane. Especially the -700 was not flyable for me. It's a pity that the 737-700U and 737-900U are no longer developed and available. I still use both models together with the ZIBO, because they were perfected in my eyes. On the subject of payware. No, I would not pay anything for it. Not as long as a better version (ZIBO) is available for free. Also, I've turned my back on any designer who offered a product for free for a while and then suddenly wanted money for it. Unfortunately there are many examples.

You're right. But it remains as it is. As soon as you ask for money, freeware becomes payware. Whether you call it donation, help or fee. I have made freeware for 20 years and never asked for a cent. That is freeware for me. Everything else is payware.

Hopefully this idea doesn't spread, because it would be the end of freeware.

The LevelUp 737 has not been developed further so far. There also have been no updates since its release yet. The current version is still 1.0.0. The version you are talking about, 3.51.10, is not the LevelUp 737 but the ZIBO 737-800X. The last XP11 version for this aircraft was 3.54.17. But there are already early access XP12 updates. Here is a link to a page where you can find all ZIBO versions: https://www.flusi.info/forum/index.php?thread/9105-zibo-mod-boeing-737-800-updates/&pageNo=7 Please note that this is the ZIBO 737-800X. This is not the LevelUp 737.

Just take a look at the forum. There are probably so many that it is not easy to put them together. Here are my problems with the -700. It revolves around the stability during the landing approach with the AP: https://forum.thresholdx.net/topic/5003-autopilot-problem-app-mode/#comment-13667 https://forum.thresholdx.net/topic/5161-trim-runaway-on-apr/#comment-13397 https://forum.thresholdx.net/topic/5023-swing-on-the-glide-path-737-600-levelup/#comment-12965 https://forum.thresholdx.net/topic/4966-737_70ng-issue-on-final/#comment-12961 https://forum.thresholdx.net/topic/5003-autopilot-problem-app-mode/#comment-12896 There are probably many more. Unfortunately, I can't find them out, because the plane is unflyable in its current condition with me. I think that I will not install the aircraft again either. The designers here do not respond to the problems and the required updates just take too long. Too bad. The beginning was really promising.

It's nice that you see it that way and the team here is certainly happy about this statement as well. But the aircraft is now 8 months old and has obvious problems that need to be corrected. A little feedback would have been really nice. But so far nothing has come. I uninstalled the NG a while ago. In my eyes the project has gone away to use friendly words.

I think that this is not necessary. The real autopilot is not really complicated. If the boundary conditions are right, and these are basic things, the 737 autopilot works like any other AP. I'm not aware of any real aircraft that starts crazy oscillating when LOC or GS are caught. The behavior of the -700 has nothing to do with fiddly reality. It is wrong in my opinion and should be corrected with a fix.

I don't think this behavior is more realistic. And if it is, why is it only on the -700 and not on the -800 and -900 on my system? This behavior does not occur on the Zibo and likewise not on the old -700U. The aircraft is perfectly trimmed and flies at the correct speed. However, as soon as GS is catched, it starts vibrating so extrem that flying is no longer possible. If this is realistic, it is good news for the manufacturers of vomit bags. The problem is not only with me. In the meantime there are a lot of posts about it here in the forum from several users. I myself have written to at least four of them. If the update cannot fix the problem, I will probably stay with the old -700U as long as possible. Then the LevelUp is not for me. BTW: I am not a real pilot but I have been flying the 737 in the flight simulator since the early 90's and have been in a full-motion 737 simulator several times. Before coming to Xplane, I used the PMDG 737 in the MS simulator. None of the aircraft I have used so far had this kind of behavior. If this is realistic, are they all done wrong?

I have the problem with "A/T Engaged Lock Throttle" On or Off. This makes no difference to me with the -700. I rather suspect that the problem is related to the flaps. If I land with less than 25° flaps and thus higher speed, everything works. As soon as I set the flaps to 25° the chaos starts when the aircraft tries to follow the glideslope. I don't have this problem with the Zibo or the old B737U. I will wait for the update and hope that the problem will be solved then. Regards Matthias

I have this with the -700 (the only type I use). Seems to be a bug. At the moment I've uninstalled the LevelUp and wait for an update. For all other types it seems to help to switch on experimental flight model.

Unfortunately not. I've uninstalled the NG now and wait for a new flyable Version. Til then I'm using the old -700U.

I had the same problem with the -700.

Unfortunately my modifications were also unsuccessful. Since I only use the -700, I have now uninstalled the Levelup 737. It is not usable for me. But it was a nice aircraft.

Unfortunately this will not help.